@MikePenceVP we must maintain an operational shuttle system re ABBEY, Jeffs, Cunningham, Crippen, Krantz, Kraft, Aldrin, Cernan
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RI 's George Jeffs
In the meantime, I think that we ought to take advantage of what we've got, like the Shuttle, and I'm not even involved in the Shuttle Program at all anymore. But the Shuttle Program, it's like you say: It's going to operate for many reusable periods. Whether it gets to 100 missions or not, I don't know; but it could well if you keep working on it. And you're paying a lot of money for it; and it works! You're not going to get a new one until technology takes you down there, and that's going to be propulsion, I think, not things like the X-3
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RI 's George Jeffs
In the meantime, I think that we ought to take advantage of what we've got, like the Shuttle, and I'm not even involved in the Shuttle Program at all anymore. But the Shuttle Program, it's like you say: It's going to operate for many reusable periods. Whether it gets to 100 missions or not, I don't know; but it could well if you keep working on it. And you're paying a lot of money for it; and it works! You're not going to get a new one until technology takes you down there, and that's going to be propulsion, I think, not things like the X-3
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Jim Hillhouse American Space
What Congress sees is not a justification for Commercial Crew. Far from it. Congressional staffers are well aware of the true progress of that program and no, none of those players are getting us to ISS anytime soon. That's largely NASA's fault since Congress has informed it that the CCP program needed to down-selected years ago to better focus limited resources for faster progress. But NASA's leadership didn't do that for political reasons. Loose Boeing and CCP looses luster and respectability. Loose Sierra Nevada and we working on three capsule programs. And if you want to make engineers working in GN&C or ELSS laugh, tell them that one of the CCP companies will be flying crews by 2016. Guffaws galore.
And those in Congress specializing in space are well aware that, had getting independent access to ISS for our nation really been Job #1 for NASA's leadership, then the Administration would have approved Boeing's proposal for the X-37B follow-on, the 5 crew X-37C. We are talking about a dependable spacecraft that can sit in orbit for over a year and NASA said no to making it a crewed vehicle. Why?
X37C--- Boeing Proposal
The capability that is lacking is the one that saved Hubble and built the largest structure ever assembled and flown in space. A redesigned X-37 that can carry astronauts could provide such a capability. Abbey
Money spent on human exploration should be used to develop capabilities needed for a meaningful program. Research into long space flights can be done at the International Space Station, which should therefore be vigorously supported. Abundant launch vehicles are already on the commercial market, and yet a new and very expensive launch vehicle, with undefined payload and mission, is being developed. Three spacecraft are being developed to carry astronauts to space. Does the nation need three space capsules with limited capabilities? The capability that is lacking is the one that saved Hubble and built the largest structure ever assembled and flown in space. A redesigned X-37 that can carry astronauts could provide such a capability.
Reducing the cost of space flight would be a big help. Jeff Bezos of Blue Origin and Elon Musk of SpaceX are pursuing the technology for reusable rockets. United Launch Alliance is pursuing reusable first-stage engines for its next-generation Vulcan rocket. It expects the recovery of the engines alone to reduce the propulsion cost of the booster by up to 90 percent. A fly-back booster was considered during early design studies for the space shuttle, and could be achieved today. NASA should lead the way to provide such a capability and establish U.S. leadership in launch technology.
America needs a space policy that has a vision that can build on past achievements and keep moving forward. A big part of that is construction, maintenance and servicing in low-Earth orbit. Another is international cooperation. And we should realign our goals with those of other major space-faring nations and look back to the Moon, so we again become the leaders in space. After all, we've been there before. A lunar exploration program would provide the foundation for manned missions beyond the Moon. Our eyes must look to the skies with purpose toward that limitless frontier.
George Abbey is senior fellow in space policy at Rice University's Baker Institute for Public Policy. He is the former director of NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston.
Cernan House Testimony 2010
With the submission of FY2011 budget, The Administration and the originators of this proposal were either misinformed or showing extreme naivete, or I can only conclude, are willing to take accountability for a calculated plan to dismantle America's leadership in the world of Human Space Exploration resulting in NASA becoming nothing more than a research facility. In either case, I believe this proposal is a travesty which flows against the grain of over 200 years of our history and, today, against the will of the majority of Americans.
America's human space flight program has for a half century risen above partisan differences from Eisenhower to Kennedy to the present day. The challenges and accomplishments of the past were those of a nation – never of a political party or of any individual agenda. Those flags that fly on the moon today are neither blue flags nor are they red flags – they are American Flags. We are at a cross road. If we abdicate our leadership in space today, not only is human spaceflight and space exploration at risk, but I believe the future of this country and thus the future of our children and grandchildren as well. Now is the time for wiser heads in the Congress
of the United States to prevail. Now is the time to overrule this Administration's
pledge to mediocrity. Now is the time to be bold, innovative and wise in how we
invest in the future of America. Now is the time to re-establish our nation's commitment to excellence.
Boeing presentation in2011 makes strong case for expanding x37B (x37C)---idiot potus can't understand!
X37B Boeing proposal
The X-37B: Exploring expanded capabilities for ISS missions March 12, 2013 by Chris Gebhardt As NASA and its new commercial partners continue to push toward the era of realized commercial crew transportation to Low Earth Orbit (LEO), Boeing has released a paper detailing the potentiality of expanding the capabilities of the U.S. Air Force's X-37B reusable space plane for cargo and crewed missions to LEO – a proposal, which for unknown reasons, appears to have been pushed aside by NASA's commercial space division. What could have been – A reusable space plane for the commercial era: As stated a Boeing presentation (acquired by L2), the concept of utilizing the X-37B as part of NASA's COTS and CCDev programs stemmed from the idea that the program would be able to "realize cost savings and acceleration of technology developmental timelines by focusing on the payload. See Also Commercial Space Section L2 Commercial Section Click here to Join L2 "Non- recurring costs [would be] substantially reduced by taking advantage of a mature spacecraft bus with well defined bus-to-payload interfaces and a ground station supported by seasoned mission operations staff using flight validated operational products." Given that this presentation came after the first successful test flight of the X-37B, Boeing also noted that "Several key technologies for reusable spacecraft were successfully demonstrated in the areas of aerodynamics, aerothermodynamics, reusable solar arrays, Thermal Protection Systems (TPS), and autonomous Guidance, Navigation, and Control (GNC)." Development of a mini-Shuttle – The X-37B comes to life: Birthed from the NASA Future-X (1998-2001) and Space Launch Initiatives (2001-2006) campaigns, the X-37B was developed to help lower the cost of LEO transport for post-Shuttle and replacement EELV (Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle) eras. In addition to testing next generation TPS system materials, the X-37B was envisioned as a platform capable of testing autonomous deorbit, entry, and landing GNC; fault tolerant architecture for autonomous on-orbit and entry flight; GPS and dGPS for landing with minimal airfield infrastructure; electro-mechanical flight actuation and brakes; and Li-Ion (Lithium-Ion) batteries for high cycle life and high current capabilities. Moreover, the X-37B would be able to test reusable, deployable and stowable solar arrays; advanced Gr/BMI composite airframes; complex Carbon-Carbon control surfaces; advanced high temperature wing leading edge tiles; hypersonic aeroheating prediction methods; and integrated systems designed for aircraft-like turnaround operations for post-mission processing. Launched on its first test flight on 22 April 2010 by an Atlas V 501-configured rocket from the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, the first mission of the X-37B spent 224 days in orbit before returning to Earth on 3 December of that year. During entry on 3 December, the X-37B successfully managed its energy, position, altitude, and descent profile using bank angle, pitch angle, and S-turns across a 5,500 nm reentry flight path. More impressively, the craft successfully, and for the first time ever for a spacecraft, "assessed its energy to go and [autonomously] moved the HAC (Heading Alignment Circle) away from the runway threshold to adjust for high altitude tailwinds." As related by the Boeing presentation, "The capability to autonomously adjust for winds and energy by moving the HAC is just one of the guidance algorithm advancements over the Shuttle Orbiter approach and landing methods." Adapting the X-37 design to the age of commercial space endeavours: Noting the reluctance of the American space industry to fly anything in space that isn't in some way connected to the heritage of Shuttle, Atlas, Delta, Ariane, any number of Russian engine technologies, or even the Saturn V, Boeing makes the case that the X-37B is an excellent example of space heritage – while providing the added benefit of incorporating new and evolving space technologies (like solar cell technology for reusable solar arrays) into its design. Specifically, though, the presentation makes note of NASA's burgeoning ISS COTS cargo and CCDev crew transport initiatives, noting a need "to qualify a new generation of autonomous rendezvous, proximity operations, and docking sensors and software." The presentation notes that the X-37B has the capability to perform attitude control maneuvers that are well in-line with NASA baseline standards for ISS and satellite rendezvous operations, and the vehicle's subsystem fault tolerance for automated aborts from Station and satellites is also well within NASA standards. Thus, the X-37B spacecraft design would provide an excellent way to "demonstrate, refine, and validate competing technologies and operational concepts without having to build a unique demonstration spacecraft." Moreover, Boeing notes that the X-37B design would also provide a valuable test platform for "multiple competing technologies [that] can be integrated onto a single OTV (Orbiter Test Vehicle, the official name for the X-37B vehicle) as independent subsystems." The X-37B vehicle would then be able to independently test these "multiple competing technologies" during a single demonstration flight to the ISS or orbiting satellite, thus eliminating the need to conduct separate flights for each independent technology. Making the case for X-37 ISS operations: With the retirement of the Space Shuttle orbiter fleet in 2011 came the elimination of the capability to return sensitive cargo, requiring a soft landing, from the ISS. Enter the X-37, the only vehicle currently in operation that is capable of providing a soft, 1.5g class return landing. Making use of the X-37 design would allow sensitive cargo of the biological and material science variety (the science that forms the core of microgravity research aboard the ISS) to be safely and softly returned to Earth inside the X-37B's payload bay. Following a runway landing, any time sensitive cargo could be safely and quickly removed from the vehicle. Additionally, Boeing states that "At the X-37B's current size, upmass cargo would be carried internally and externally while downmass cargo would be entirely within the payload bay. "The considerable excess launch capability of the EELV class launch vehicles and unused volume within the 5m fairing [would] enable the X-37 to carry several large ISS LRUs (Line Replaceable Units) or other items externally on the service module," notes the Boeing AIAA presentation. Under this proposal, using the X-37B itself with an attached service module, the craft would be launched into a 51.6 degree inclination orbit for rendezvous with the ISS. After arriving at ISS, the X-37B would maneuver itself within the berthing box of the ISS's Remote Manipulator System (SSRMS) arm. The ISS crew would then use the SSRMS to reach out and grapple the X-37B and then attach it (dock it) to one of the Common Berthing Mechanisms (CBMs) on one of the nodes of the Station. During the course of docked operations, the X-37B would require no support from the ISS, less the physical CBM attachment, as all power and electricity would come from the deployed solar array and onboard batteries. The crew of the ISS would then be able to use the SSRMS to remove all external cargo from the outside attachment points on the X-37B itself. Internal cargo for ISS would be stowed within containers in the X-37B's payload bay to make transfer of materials to and from ISS easier for the Station's crew or any robot that might be tasked with moving the internal cargo. All downmass cargo would then be loaded into these containers before the containers would be returned to the X-37B's payload bay. After completion of docked operations, the SSRMS would unberth the X-37B, and the spacecraft would then maneuver itself away from the Station. The service module would be jettisoned prior to the initiation of deorbit, entry, descent, and landing operations. Evolving the X-37B for crew transportation: For the consideration of expanding the X-37B baseline design for the inclusion of crew launch and return capability, the Boeing presentation notes that an increase in size of approximately 160-180 percent would be needed to meet a 5-7 crew-size capability. Under this design, the X-37 would nominally be able to accommodate 5-6 astronauts with enough provisions and space for one injured astronaut requiring a stretcher-like return configuration for reentry and landing. The launch and entry seats for the crew would be aligned along one side of the pressurized volume within the X-37, leaving a clear access path for launch pad climbing and zero-G operations. The crew would enter the spacecraft via a hatch on the top of the X-37. The same hatch would provide emergency launch pad egress capability. For in-flight abort scenarios, a "pusher-style abort system between the Atlas V's Centaur upper stage and the X-37 [would] provide the appropriate acceleration and Delta-V for the required abort scenarios." Completely autonomous, the crewed X-37 would be capable of launching, aborting, rendezvousing, docking, undocking, deorbiting, and landing itself without any input from the crew. Cross-range capabilities of the X-37 design would allow for multiple deorbit opportunities per day to the Kennedy Space Center, FL, White Sands Space Harbor, NM, and Vandenberg Air Force Base, CA. While the Boeing presentation – created in 2011 for the AIAA – makes a fairly convincing case for the evolving capabilities of the X-37B, there is no indication at this time that pursuit of this option is ongoing or even under the slightest consideration from NASA. (Images: Via Boeing and ULA). (Click here: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/l2/ – to view how you can support NSF and access the best space flight content on the entire internet). Related Articles X-37B lands successfully following 220 days in space Share This Article Share on facebook Share on twitter Share on email Share on gmail More Sharing Services
From: "Dolph, Mark" <mark-dolph@utulsa.edu>
Date: November 24, 2016 at 5:30:39 PM CST
To: "bobbygmartin1938@gmail.com" <bobbygmartin1938@gmail.com>
Subject: Big Moon
Mark Dolph
Associate Curator of History
Gilcrease Museum
Posted on Trump's Request for Your Views website
Read ABBEY 's Lost in Space----we must get this capability back & Maintain Absolute control of EO & operate a fleet of space based missile interceptors!
CONSIDER what assets we have in Earth Orbit!
Consider our lack of a perfect missile defense!
GET over IT---- THE LAW is The LAW!!!
Illegals are illegal---- simple enough!
start with deportation operations, do the biggest problems first.
any mayor, police , etc who violates the law must be charged.
After all, we do have laws!
Protesters who hurt people & Damage property are breaking the law, AS are City officials who are not complying with Federal laws!
Anyone hiring protesters is breaking the law---- if Soros--- should be charged!
Posted on Trump's Request for Your Views website
Read ABBEY 's Lost in Space----we must get this capability back & Maintain Absolute control of EO & operate a fleet of space based missile interceptors!
CONSIDER what assets we have in Earth Orbit!
Consider our lack of a perfect missile defense!
From: Bobby G Martin <bobbygmartin1938@gmail.com>
Date: November 13, 2016 at 6:25:17 PM CST
To: "Peter M. Callahan" <pmcallah@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: The Future of Space: Top Issues Facing President-Elect Donald Trump
Thanks
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The Future of Space: Top Issues Facing President-Elect Donald Trump
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COCOA, Fla. — Citing the space program as an example of American leadership in decline, Republican vice presidential nominee Mike Pence urged hundreds of supporters Monday afternoon to help propel him and Donald Trump to the White House.
"We all know that space is the final frontier," the Indiana governor and former congressman said at the Space Coast Convention Center, about 25 miles from Kennedy Space Center. "And just as we've always done before, America needs to lead the way on the final frontier."
From: "Peter M. Callahan" <pmcallah@gmail.com>
Date: November 7, 2016 at 9:22:22 PM CST
To: Bobby Martin <bobbygmartin1938@gmail.com>
Subject: National Voter Assistance Hotline
National Voter Assistance Hotline
Thank you again for supporting Donald Trump for President. Just a reminder that if you encounter any problems casting a ballot or if you witness any disruptions at a polling location please call our Voter Assistance Hotline at (844) 332-2016. You can also report any of these incidents on-line at:
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Date: November 6, 2016 at 9:48:27 AM CST
To: Bobby Martin <bobbygmartin1938@gmail.com>
Subject: NASA Panel's Letter Warns of Issues With SpaceX Manned Rocket Procedures
SpaceX will never successfully put humans into orbit, let alone Mars!NASA Panel's Letter Warns of Issues With SpaceX Manned Rocket Procedureshttp://www.wsj.com/articles/nasa-panels-letter-warns-of-issues-with-spacex-manned-rocket-procedures-1478403976?mod=pls_whats_news_us_business_f
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Date: November 1, 2016 at 12:09:55 PM CDT
To: Alice Cline <jdcline1819@gmail.com>, Lance Lance <lance@pldi.net>, Bob <bobbygmartin1938@gmail.com>, Earl Gore <drywalldude1@aol.com>, Delorse <dolucas_fosslake@yahoo.com>, Mary Sue Dale <dalefam@pldi.net>, Mary Flynn <mary-flynn@omrf.org>
Subject: Fw: THE ROWBOAT COMES FOR YOU.....
THE ROWBOAT COMES FOR YOU.....
Many of you will not take the time to read this but you may be making a drastic mistake. Read it in full then think about it. Some already know the answer. This has nothing to do with your party line but rather our real future.
interesting perspective... either way, we best be saying our prayers.
THE ROWBOAT COMES FOR YOU.....
This may be the best and most honest political promotion statement you will ever read. It decidedly does not brush objections aside.
You hate Hillary? READ it. You hate Trump? READ it. You think there's no choice? READ it. And, read it with your grown-up hat on.
We've all been dealt huge responsibility with this election. The first step toward accepting responsibility is accepting it, and the first step toward accepting it is recognizing it.
READ THIS. Read every single word. It'll take you about three minutes. Be sure to read to the end (take a few minutes and read all of it!)
Are you sickened and despondent with the current campaign and upcoming presidential election?
I consider myself a conservative and do truly believe our country is at a political/economic/moral/ social crossroads. I need to let you know I could/would never vote for Hillary Clinton to lead this country. To me, she represents everything that is wrong with our current political structure. On the flip side, I look and listen to Donald Trump and I cringe at every rude, insulting comment he makes.
If you find yourself in a similar state of mind, please read the following article:
A Message For Christians About Donald Trump
Here's a famous joke about God and how he talks to us.
"A deeply faithful Christian man is stuck on roof at home with massive flooding up to the 2nd floor. Rowboat comes. He says "No, I'm waiting for God. I prayed and I know he's coming." 2nd Rowboat. "No, I'm waiting for God." 3rd Rowboat. "No, I'm waiting for God."
Water rises. The man drowns. Now he's meeting God in heaven. The religious man says, "Where were you God? I prayed. I was faithful. I asked you to save me. Why would you abandon me?"
God says, "Hey, I sent you 3 rowboats."
Did you ever consider Trump is our rowboat?
Maybe God is trying to tell us something important--that now is not the time for a "nice Christian guy" or a "gentleman" or a typical Republican powder puff. Maybe now is the time for a natural born killer, a ruthless fighter, a warrior. Because right about now we need a miracle, or America is finished. Maybe the rules of gentlemen don't apply here. Maybe a gentleman and "all-around nice Christian" would lead us to slaughter.
Or do you want another Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, John McCain, Gerald Ford or Paul Ryan? Did any of them win? Did they lead the GOP to "the promised land?" Did they change the direction of America ? No, because if you don't win, you have no say.
Paul Ryan couldn't even deliver his own state, Wisconsin ! And as leader of the House, Paul Ryan rolls over to Obama like my dog rolls over for a scrap of food, or a steak bone. Nice, but obedient. I mean Paul Ryan...not my dog. My dog is actually a pretty good defender and loyal.
Maybe God is knocking on your door loudly, but you're not listening. Maybe God understands we need a "war leader" at this moment in time. Maybe God understands if we don't win this election, America is dead. It's over. The greatest nation in world history will be gone. Finished. Kaput. Adios.
And with one last breath, maybe what we need to save us at the last second, is someone different. Someone you haven't ever experienced before-- because you weren't raised in rough and tumble New York where nothing good gets accomplished unless you're combative, aggressive, outrageous, on offense at all times, and maybe just a tad arrogant too.
Someone with a personality you've never seen on stage at your church. Maybe, just maybe, being a nice gentlemanly Christian would not beat Hillary and her billion dollars, and her best friends in the media who will unleash the dogs of hell upon the GOP nominee.
I guess you think God is only nice and gentlemanly. Really? Then you've missed the whole point of the Bible. When necessary, God is pretty tough. When necessary, God strikes with pain, death and destruction. When necessary, God inflicts vengeance.
Maybe you think God couldn't possibly be associated with someone like Trump. Trump is too vicious, rude and crude.When we won WWII, was God "nice?" Were we gentlemanly when defeating Hitler? Were we gentlemanly when firebombing Germany? Were we gentlemanly when dropping atomic bombs on Japan ? Is God ever "nice" on the battlefield? Or does he send us vicious SOB's like General George S. Patton so the good guys can defeat evil?
It's pretty clear to me God sends unique people to be "war leaders." That's a different role than a pastor or church leader. God understands that.
And maybe it's time to re-define "nice." Maybe Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan aren't nice at all--because they led us to defeat. And losing again would mean the end of America . And God can't allow that. Maybe Romney and Ryan mean well, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Or maybe they're just jealous they had their chance and blew it. Maybe they'd rather help elect Hillary than allow a Trump victory that would make them look weak, feckless and incompetent.
"Even the youths shall faint and be weary, And the young men shall utterly fall, But those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint." (Isiah 40:30-31)
God is about miracles. We don't need a "nice guy" or a "gentleman" right now. It's the 4th quarter and we're losing 14-0. We need a miracle.
So let me repeat my message to Christians: "YOU'RE MISSING THE BOAT."
I believe Trump is our miracle. I believe Trump is our rowboat. Except he's more like a battleship!
No one is saying Trump is perfect. No one is saying Trump is a perfect conservative. But he is a patriot. He is a warrior. He is a capitalist. He is the right man, at the right time. Yes, he's a bit rude and crude and offensive. But that may make him the perfect warrior to save America , American exceptionalism, capitalism and Judeo-Christian values. The choice should be easy for Christians.
It's Trump...or it's the end of the American dream.
If anything in this article strikes a positive chord with you, please pass it on.
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